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Post by finnmccool on Nov 3, 2023 10:21:40 GMT -5
So I read somewhere one of the reasons Tyler Bertuzzi signed with Toronto was to play in a big media market to raise his profile and be given a large multi year contract. Well Tyler, Toronto is certainly a big media market and we're certainly seeing a lot of you and the way you play, which is so crappy you"ve been benched in the third period of the last two games. Maybe it time you stopped hoping for this big multi year multi dollar contract and started working for one. Oh and while you do it you might stop smirking as your team helps your injured team mate (liljegren) off the ice with what may be torn ligaments or a broken leg and show some grit and push back for crying out loud.
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Post by kazzie on Nov 3, 2023 10:36:47 GMT -5
👏👏
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Post by stugats1 on Nov 3, 2023 11:49:52 GMT -5
100% finn
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Post by TMan on Nov 3, 2023 15:06:04 GMT -5
It won’t take long for LN to turn on him and Domi. And Reaves for that matter.
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Post by hobie on Dec 15, 2023 16:46:04 GMT -5
This guy had one good year, 3 so so years so we have to assume that he was signed for more than his potential offense, I'm thinking his physicality. So far I'm not seeing anything worth $5.5 mil., I don\'t blame him for signing but I do wonder about Trevling, none of his signings, including Kampf, have worked out, it's scary that the future is in his hands.
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Post by finnmccool on Dec 15, 2023 17:42:51 GMT -5
This guy had one good year, 3 so so years so we have to assume that he was signed for more than his potential offense, I'm thinking his physicality. So far I'm not seeing anything worth $5.5 mil., I don\'t blame him for signing but I do wonder about Trevling, none of his signings, including Kampf, have worked out, it's scary that the future is in his hands. Hey signing free agents, especially one intending to fill secondary roles can be a bit of a crap shoot at the best of times. Even the beloved Kyle Dubas ( can you tell I'm not a fan ) has alot to answer for with his signing of free agents while GM of the leafs. Remember Nick Richie, and remember Petre Marzek and then remember how much it cost the leafs to get rid of these players. Brad Trevling is in his 10th year of being a GM in the NHL and while he has yet to show himself to be a great GM he would not have lasted 10 years if he were not competent. I too agree some of his signings were questionable, but who would have predicted Bertuzzi and Domi would be so ineffective. If your looking to blame someone for the shape of the Leafs we need to start with the boy wonder himself ( Dubas ) and Shanahan.
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Post by hobie on Dec 15, 2023 21:04:13 GMT -5
Something I've never understood, why must GMs act like fans and watch all the Leaf games. I'm thinking how can Trev. make a trade for a player when hasn't watched them play, some days 15 NHL teams are playing, plus junior teams are playing, AHL teams are playing, SKL, KHL and on and on are playing but our beloved GMs sit in their box seats watching the Leafs. Why is this, they don't know who is playing good or bad on the Leafs.
I figure Trev. is the GM, his major influence on the team is the players, either existing or potential thru trades, contracts, signings, not signings and other means, I can't understand how any GM can do his job by being the team's top cheerleader, being at every game.
How can Dubie or Trev make truly worthy personnel decisions by sitting on their asses, being GM should mean making decisions based on a solid knowledge base which I feel very obviously Trev didn't have when he made every player decision this last summer.
I liked Dubie, he signed the rich contracts fully expecting the Cap to increase year after year, his plan was a Covid casualty. Maybe being able to keep Hy, Kadri and others TO might be in a far better situation now but that's spilt milk, Dubie's bad decisions were pretty well always on cheap players, Trev seems totally invested in bad players at high salaries even tho he hasn't done proper research, at least he hasn't overextended his FA signings except Kampf.
Game after game I see the high priced Dubie signings saving the day(games), I doubt TO's collection of other players would be able to accomplish anything positive and TO's drafting record has been so bad that trading draft choices makes more sense than keeping them.
We need a Cup now, I can't see that happening with Trev captaining the team and our quality players are simply going to age out of their primes.
Are we in for another 50 years plus?
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Post by stugats1 on Dec 16, 2023 7:25:24 GMT -5
I don't have another 50 years. Every day I see the door slowly closing. Unless some quality comes in, this is not the year. Mish mash on D, chaos in the net and forwards too worried about own stats and not good of the team.
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Post by finnmccool on Dec 16, 2023 11:50:11 GMT -5
Retrospect is a funny thing, it allows for us righteous to fantasize and rewrite history. When I'm really pissed at the leafs I contemplate Kyle Dubas (who, oh him ) not signing John Tavares to a 7 year 11 million dollar contract and what we could have done with the savings. How's this sign Zach Hyman, and sign probably two free agent defencemen, and keep those first round picks that have been traded. Ah ah ah ah ah, righteous, that's excellent.
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Post by TMan on Dec 17, 2023 11:35:51 GMT -5
Been on the fence about Bert and Domi but the Pens beatdown showed me what these two can contribute. I’m warming up to both of them a bit.
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Post by Gerard on Dec 18, 2023 8:32:12 GMT -5
This guy had one good year, 3 so so years so we have to assume that he was signed for more than his potential offense, I'm thinking his physicality. So far I'm not seeing anything worth $5.5 mil., I don\'t blame him for signing but I do wonder about Trevling, none of his signings, including Kampf, have worked out, it's scary that the future is in his hands. Hey signing free agents, especially one intending to fill secondary roles can be a bit of a crap shoot at the best of times. Even the beloved Kyle Dubas ( can you tell I'm not a fan ) has alot to answer for with his signing of free agents while GM of the leafs. Remember Nick Richie, and remember Petre Marzek and then remember how much it cost the leafs to get rid of these players. Brad Trevling is in his 10th year of being a GM in the NHL and while he has yet to show himself to be a great GM he would not have lasted 10 years if he were not competent. I too agree some of his signings were questionable, but who would have predicted Bertuzzi and Domi would be so ineffective. If your looking to blame someone for the shape of the Leafs we need to start with the boy wonder himself ( Dubas ) and Shanahan. Im frustrated for sure with some of these deals but I do feel BT was simply grabbing at straws from the Dubas/Shanahan era. Weve been signing extras hoping for big dividends bc we had no choice and the odds of that working out consistently is a very low percentage and BT signed Domi etc with the same hopes in sight. Yes hindsight is 20/20 and watching Klingberg and Reaves be a total waste (even before the injuries) just adds to the mess and Shanny gets away scott-free every time. Been on the fence about Bert and Domi but the Pens beatdown showed me what these two can contribute. I’m warming up to both of them a bit. Im still not a fan but must admit Domi seems to have found a recent spark. Weve still got 75% of the year ahead so lets hope.
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Post by stugats1 on Dec 18, 2023 9:51:31 GMT -5
Been on the fence about Bert and Domi but the Pens beatdown showed me what these two can contribute. I’m warming up to both of them a bit. I.think.Domi has been pretty decent. If they were to keep either, I'd choose Domi all day. I was never a fan of his or his father but I've liked his effort. Not as much of a loud mouth as I expected
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Post by kazzie on Dec 18, 2023 10:23:07 GMT -5
Been on the fence about Bert and Domi but the Pens beatdown showed me what these two can contribute. I’m warming up to both of them a bit. I.think.Domi has been pretty decent. If they were to keep either, I'd choose Domi all day. I was never a fan of his or his father but I've liked his effort. Not as much of a loud mouth as I expected I woukd prefer Domi too. I haven’t like Bertuzzi since that smiling during the Liljegren injury against Boston. I must admit I do like his effort and he has grown on me but I prefer Domi. Since they moved him to Center he has ramped his game up.
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Post by finnmccool on Dec 18, 2023 14:46:44 GMT -5
I Agree with you guys if one of the two Tyler Bertuzzi or Max Domi has to be moved let it be Bertuzzi. To me of the 4 free agents that were signed over the summer Tyler Bertuzzi is the biggest disappointment. I remember hating him when the leafs played the Red Wings, he seem to be a real irritant who would throw the opposition off their game and pop a timely goal. Watching him this year I have seen none of that. What I have notice though is he is a terrible skater, so much so that John Travares looks fleet afoot compared to him, and when it comes to shooting the puck that enless he is 10 from the goal he can't seem to hit the net. You gotta believe the leafs were hoping for a little more than 5 goals after 28 games for their 5.5 million dollar investment.
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Post by hobie on Jan 12, 2024 17:11:36 GMT -5
There's a rumor that TO is interested in Jenner from Columbus, he's normally a center but also has played LW, TO's current LWers are Bert and Knies, they play on pretty good lines with superior linemates but they only have 18 and 16 points each so it's pretty obvious they aren't good enough to take advantage of their opportunities, with Knies that's OK as he has plenty of opportunity to grow, Bert not so much. I can see them both being demoted which might be a blessing for Knies, on say the 3rd line his transition to the NHL might be more gentle better than sending him to the A.
I was surprised at how well Jarkrok took to playing on the top 2 lines so maybe he should be elevated to one of these top 2 lines with Jenner being on the other.
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