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Post by stugats1 on Jan 21, 2024 4:15:58 GMT -5
What a joke of an under achieving team. Nothing will happen
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Post by kazzie on Jan 21, 2024 6:41:07 GMT -5
A moral victory for coming back but this team needs victories in the standings. Stupid cross checking penalties on Domi and Giordano cost us. Not one of Giordano’s more stellar games and Brodie was bad too.
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Post by kazzie on Jan 21, 2024 8:53:16 GMT -5
It occurred to me over the course of watching last night’s game that Vancouver has so much more of a complete team than Toronto has. The have a top notch goaltender, big and rough defensemen that can still move the puck and a nice combo of forwards that are all good players. Their defense punishes guys in front of their net and their forwards forecheck like crazy. I guess that what’s you get instead of paying 4 of your guys 1/2 of your allotted salary cap. We haven’t guys that produce and let’s face it Tavares is not worth the $11 million he is getting and I don’t think he’s a good leader. He is too soft spoken and timid as far as I’m concerned. This team is a .500 club (22-14-8) and Shanahan has been a colossal failure. They are the Dallas Cowboys of the NHL. Sorry Barilko as I know the Cowboys are your team but my point is a franchise with all kinds of money and a disappointment year after year. They are more concerned with making money than making a winner.
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Post by kazzie on Jan 21, 2024 8:59:13 GMT -5
I just watched Keefe’s post game presser and if I hear him say one more time that “we just can’t do that” I’m going to scream. Remember when you benched Kampf and were making players responsible? What the hell happened to that Shelly? Idle threats with no repercussions. He needs to go because this team is circling the drain.
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Post by finnmccool on Jan 21, 2024 9:31:37 GMT -5
It occurred to me over the course of watching last night’s game that Vancouver has so much more of a complete team than Toronto has. The have a top notch goaltender, big and rough defensemen that can still move the puck and a nice combo of forwards that are all good players. Their defense punishes guys in front of their net and their forwards forecheck like crazy. I guess that what’s you get instead of paying 4 of your guys 1/2 of your allotted salary cap. We haven’t guys that produce and let’s face it Tavares is not worth the $11 million he is getting and I don’t think he’s a good leader. He is too soft spoken and timid as far as I’m concerned. This team is a .500 club (22-14-8) and Shanahan has been a colossal failure. They are the Dallas Cowboys of the NHL. Sorry Barilko as I know the Cowboys are your team but my point is a franchise with all kinds of money and a disappointment year after year. They are more concerned with making money than making a winner. Agreed with you kazzie Vancouver has a much deeper forward group, it’s not even close. Plus you gotta love the Vancouver defence big physical and mobile, and let’s not forget their rock solid in goal with Thatcher Demko. You can see why the Vancouver fans are so pumped about their team. on a side note its sad to see John Tavares rapid decline, he seemed completely lost out there. |
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Post by stugats1 on Jan 21, 2024 9:47:37 GMT -5
I see The Islanders got Patrick Roy as coach. I'd have taken that
. He will hold players accountable..
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Post by kazzie on Jan 21, 2024 9:51:47 GMT -5
It occurred to me over the course of watching last night’s game that Vancouver has so much more of a complete team than Toronto has. The have a top notch goaltender, big and rough defensemen that can still move the puck and a nice combo of forwards that are all good players. Their defense punishes guys in front of their net and their forwards forecheck like crazy. I guess that what’s you get instead of paying 4 of your guys 1/2 of your allotted salary cap. We haven’t guys that produce and let’s face it Tavares is not worth the $11 million he is getting and I don’t think he’s a good leader. He is too soft spoken and timid as far as I’m concerned. This team is a .500 club (22-14-8) and Shanahan has been a colossal failure. They are the Dallas Cowboys of the NHL. Sorry Barilko as I know the Cowboys are your team but my point is a franchise with all kinds of money and a disappointment year after year. They are more concerned with making money than making a winner. Agreed with you kazzie Vancouver has a much deeper forward group, it’s not even close. Plus you gotta love the Vancouver defence big physical and mobile, and let’s not forget their rock solid in goal with Thatcher Demko. You can see why the Vancouver fans are so pumped about their team. on a side note its sad to see John Tavares rapid decline, he seemed completely lost out there. I agree Finn. Tavares seems to be a day late and a dollar short on every play. |
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Post by kazzie on Jan 21, 2024 9:53:21 GMT -5
I see The Islanders got Patrick Roy as coach. I'd have taken that . He will hold players accountable.. Me too Jim. Why would a coach do that? |
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Post by stugats1 on Jan 21, 2024 10:23:58 GMT -5
It's real depressing. We have taken a step back. Games are quickly slipping away. But I'm not interested any more of trading future for older useless players to make playoffs and get bounced in first rd. Best thing is probably miss playoffs keep whatever picks we have and damage the wgos. Ahh actually.not sure if they care once they get the money
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Post by Gerard on Jan 21, 2024 12:07:04 GMT -5
I see The Islanders got Patrick Roy as coach. I'd have taken that . He will hold players accountable.. I was thinking the same thing, but that would be the last thing management would do. They like things nice and cosy and convenient and certainly don't want to hurt anybody's feelings or make people feel uncomfortable. Maybe missing in the playoffs is the best they can happen. I just hope management doesn't do something stupid and cough up the farm. Even if they did, they would just get us another forward. |
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Post by finnmccool on Jan 21, 2024 12:09:25 GMT -5
What's happening to the leafs should not surprise anyone, they have just one NHL caliber line, two NHL caliber defensemen and their two goalies are better suited to the American Hockey League.
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Post by TMan on Jan 21, 2024 13:06:23 GMT -5
And let’s not forget very little cap money to fix any of this. It is what it is. Management has done this and they caved to greedy agents/players and this is where our team stands. Missing the playoffs really will be the best thing but Tre n Shanny won’t wave the white flag and admit they f’ed up and the Leafs will miss by a few points and all the UFA’s walk with no return.
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Post by Gerard on Jan 21, 2024 14:04:16 GMT -5
Missing the playoffs really will be the best thing but Tre n Shanny won’t wave the white flag and admit they f’ed up and the Leafs will miss by a few points And thats why I fear moving Knies, Minten etc at the deadline. They are all about saving their own skins and there are zero other options. |
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Post by Leafs_Pam on Jan 21, 2024 14:49:11 GMT -5
Missing the playoffs really will be the best thing but Tre n Shanny won’t wave the white flag and admit they f’ed up and the Leafs will miss by a few points And thats why I fear moving Knies, Minten etc at the deadline. They are all about saving their own skins and there are zero other options. They had better not use them in a trade at the deadline. That would be a major mistake. Leafs need to quit trading away the future like they have done for the last 7 years. |
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Post by Barilko on Jan 24, 2024 17:28:31 GMT -5
It occurred to me over the course of watching last night’s game that Vancouver has so much more of a complete team than Toronto has. The have a top notch goaltender, big and rough defensemen that can still move the puck and a nice combo of forwards that are all good players. Their defense punishes guys in front of their net and their forwards forecheck like crazy. I guess that what’s you get instead of paying 4 of your guys 1/2 of your allotted salary cap. We haven’t guys that produce and let’s face it Tavares is not worth the $11 million he is getting and I don’t think he’s a good leader. He is too soft spoken and timid as far as I’m concerned. This team is a .500 club (22-14-8) and Shanahan has been a colossal failure. They are the Dallas Cowboys of the NHL. Sorry Barilko as I know the Cowboys are your team but my point is a franchise with all kinds of money and a disappointment year after year. They are more concerned with making money than making a winner. No apologies necessary. This is definitely not a great time for the teams I follow. |
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