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Post by lapniappe on May 21, 2003 21:57:53 GMT -5
Gary Green, Greg Millen, Glen Healey and others are all among the many who vote for getting Tambellini out of Vancouver, who does have that clause in his contract for leaving Vancouver for a GM position.
Green on the 590(FAN), this afternoon stated that this was THE guy to have running the ship in Toronto.
He knows every single league in north america, many in Europe, and not just the AHL/IHL, but also junior hockey in many countries, and players that he knows about, or heard about, not just recently, but up to 4 years ago. He has an awesome re-call memory.
and the best part (or worst part, depending on how you want to go with this) is that he's friendly with Pat Quinn, which would be a perfect fit, considering Pat wants Power. Tambellini worked with him during the Olympics, so he could do the best for the team, not just "power"
i wonder how long after July 1 we'll be hearing Tambellini coming to Toronto? I mean, we usually don't hear huge endorsements about people coming here unless theres major talk of someone coming (see Lindros (no go), Svhela (did come), Nolan (did come), Wesley (did come). It could be just testing the fan's reaction to see if he'd be welcome here.
which in my opinion; that would be better then Quinn being GM (though you are afriad of him being the Yes Man, Pammy).
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Post by Leafs_Pam on May 21, 2003 22:09:48 GMT -5
Gary Green, Greg Millen, Glen Healey and others are all among the many who vote for getting Tambellini out of Vancouver, who does have that clause in his contract for leaving Vancouver for a GM position. and the best part (or worst part, depending on how you want to go with this) is that he's friendly with Pat Quinn, which would be a perfect fit, considering Pat wants Power. Tambellini worked with him during the Olympics, so he could do the best for the team, not just "power" which in my opinion; that would be better then Quinn being GM (though you are afriad of him being the Yes Man, Pammy). Yes this really does worry me. Being a "Quinn man" could be very bad. If he is a "Quinn man" he may actually be a Quinn Puppet. If he is a Quinn Puppet, then the Leafs might as well keep Quinn as GM because Tambellini will be taking too much advice from Quinn and making the same mistakes Quinn makes. He would be the front guy with Quinn really making the decisions for the team. I don't trust any person that is a Quinn man. I don't believe they would go against Pat's recommendations. |
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Post by thinkblue on May 21, 2003 22:13:57 GMT -5
Yes this really does worry me. Being a "Quinn man" could be very bad. If he is a "Quinn man" he may actually be a Quinn Puppet. If he is a Quinn Puppet, then the Leafs might as well keep Quinn as GM because Tambellini will be taking too much advice from Quinn and making the same mistakes Quinn makes. He would be the front guy with Quinn really making the decisions for the team. I don't trust any person that is a Quinn man. I don't believe they would go against Pat's recommendations. Tambellini would still be here after Quinn leaves., regardless. Think Long term  |
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Post by Leafs_Pam on May 21, 2003 22:16:09 GMT -5
Tambellini would still be here after Quinn leaves., regardless. Think Long term Heheheh. I knew this was coming from you.  |
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Post by Rusty on May 21, 2003 22:26:50 GMT -5
Sorry I am starting to warm to the idea that a percieved Quinn guy just may become our long awaited long hoped for GM.
Pam the fact of the matter is with Quinn truly in control we have done diddly, okay we had a couple of third round appearnces, but still no cup. With Tambelini if I read and see right he has a vast knowledge of all levels of hockey around North America and over seas. Quinn what does he know? and how does he practice his Managerial skills? he pretty much goes out and signs the guys he feels comfortable with, guys who are going to go to war with him, guys who will continue to do the same mistakes over and over again, ie our fave whipping boy Jerky.
What harm would it do to have a new fresh face in the bigheads chair, I have a distinct feeling that the Mighty Quinn would probably let his guard down and forget about those day to day GM decsions (which he never does anyway btw), and return to his first love Coaching.
Rusty
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Post by Leafs_Pam on May 21, 2003 22:34:46 GMT -5
Sorry I am starting to warm to the idea that a percieved Quinn guy just may become our long awaited long hoped for GM. Pam the fact of the matter is with Quinn truly in control we have done diddly, okay we had a couple of third round appearnces, but still no cup. With Tambelini if I read and see right he has a vast knowledge of all levels of hockey around North America and over seas. Quinn what does he know? and how does he practice his Managerial skills? he pretty much goes out and signs the guys he feels comfortable with, guys who are going to go to war with him, guys who will continue to do the same mistakes over and over again, ie our fave whipping boy Jerky. What harm would it do to have a new fresh face in the bigheads chair, I have a distinct feeling that the Mighty Quinn would probably let his guard down and forget about those day to day GM decsions (which he never does anyway btw), and return to his first love Coaching. Rusty Oh, I'm all for getting a fresh face in the GM Chair, but it scares me to have a "Quinn man" as the new face. I wasn't wrong about Quinn 4 years ago when I told Leafs fans on CF's forum that having Quinn as GM would ruin the team. It just scares me that since he is a "Quinn man" that he might pay too much attention to what Pat tells him. I'm afraid of what might happen to the Leafs (elimination again). Once burned is enough. Twice burned it would be shame on us for wanting Tambellini.  |
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Post by Rusty on May 21, 2003 22:43:18 GMT -5
It may seem like he is a Quinn yes man, but I am open to anything at this time, even if it means having a Quinn guy. It has been no secret that Quinn had the right to first have a say as to who replaces him at the helm so to speak, so really Tambelini is the only logical choice.
I am not going to sit here and pine for Gainey, I just don't see it happening. Quinn and him I cannot see working very well together. SO bringing in a Tambelini only makes sense for everyone involved.
The only other option is to fire Quinn outright and give him the huge buyout of $4milllion dollars, another thing that I can't see happening. Right now the only choice that appears to be the most logical is to hire Tambelini.
Rusty
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Post by Leafs_Pam on May 21, 2003 22:49:06 GMT -5
I'm with you on Gainey. Although I would prefer him, I don't see it happening. But after being burned by Quinn, it scares me to have one of his buddy's at the helm. I would love to be proved wrong about Tambellini, but it's sure scary to think he might get the Leafs eliminated again next year. I think I've lost trust in Managment, including new managment (a basketball man!! That's Bettman's problem too. ) to do the right thing. |
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Post by Rusty on May 21, 2003 22:55:01 GMT -5
Time will tell Pam, if Tambelini is hired he has a daunting task ahead of him, as a matter of fact whomever is in that position has a daunting task concidering the "moves" that the Mighty Quinn has made these last couple of years.
I just don't see them buying out very many players either, as much as the message boards are alive with the screams of dumping our fave whipping boys, I don't see the team taking all that money and handing it out to certain players and having them go away just because the fans have said so!
Rusty
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Post by Leafs_Pam on May 21, 2003 22:59:48 GMT -5
Time will tell Pam, if Tambelini is hired he has a daunting task ahead of him, as a matter of fact whomever is in that position has a daunting task concidering the "moves" that the Mighty Quinn has made these last couple of years. Rusty Yeah you're right about that. Quinn has really messed the team up. I wasn't a big Mike Smith fan, but at least he was trying to build a better team, whereas all Quinn was trying to do as GM was to gather his favorites around him even if he favorites can't play worth a darned. I just don't see them buying out very many players either, as much as the message boards are alive with the screams of dumping our fave whipping boys, I don't see the team taking all that money and handing it out to certain players and having them go away just because the fans have said so! Rusty Sigh! Sad but true. I want to  at the thought of having Lumme, Hoglund, and Reichel again next year. Don't forget Eriksson. With our luck, Quinn will call him up again. Then I will really |
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Post by Rusty on May 21, 2003 23:01:56 GMT -5
Don't forget Eriksson. With our luck, Quinn will call him up again. Then I will really Thanks you just opened another hornets nest, I totally forgot about it.........  |
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Post by Leafs_Pam on May 21, 2003 23:18:25 GMT -5
Thanks you just opened another hornets nest, I totally forgot about it......... LOL!! ;D Sorry about laughing.  It's just that every since I saw him screw up big time in the 2001 Exhibition game against the Sabres in Hamilton, I've never been able to forget him. He's a big F up if you ask me!! He's a big F up even if you don't ask me. Man, do I wish they would put him on a slow boat to China!! |
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Post by freshwind on May 22, 2003 5:46:21 GMT -5
Tambellini would be here now if it weren't for Dryden trying to bring Gainey in. The love affair with Gainey mesmerizes me, outside of his one cup, he took over a good team, had a huge payroll, and won one cup, and even that was tainted. (Pam said so ) Twelve years, 1 win, and a lot of disappointment. I do not follow the prospects as much as I'd like to, but I do read a lot of other people's stuff about them, and one thing Q is doing right if he gets Tambellini in here. That is building a tremendous organization off the ice. Barry Trapp is an extremely well respected authority on junior hockey, now add Tambellini and our off ice group is solid. With Tambellini on board I could very easily be a lot more comfortable with Q concentrating on coaching. His philosophy on the game is a breath of fresh air when it comes to the "trapping" NHL. Regardless of how many times he and Kenny dispute the fact they don't get along, it would be a much more relaxed atmosphere with Tambellini in the gm's chair. The rumours I read out of Vancouver is that he will join the Leafs AFTER the draft, as that is part of his contract. Only in TO would the fact that our potential gm and our coach get along be a negative. Q has a lot of respect for Tambellini, opinions that he will listen to long before Dryden's or anyone else's. This can only be a good thing. |
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Post by Leafs_Pam on May 22, 2003 7:07:19 GMT -5
The love affair with Gainey mesmerizes me, outside of his one cup, he took over a good team, had a huge payroll, and won one cup, and even that was tainted. (Pam said so ) Twelve years, 1 win, and a lot of disappointment. LOL!!  Believe it or not, I'm not the only one that says Dallas' win was tainted. 1 Cup in 12 years is better than what the Leafs have done, so I would gladly take a GM that HAS won a Cup. Even if it was tainted, his team did get the Cup and they WERE in the Finals, which is also better than what the Leafs have been doing. |
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Post by lapniappe on May 22, 2003 8:17:54 GMT -5
LOL!! Believe it or not, I'm not the only one that says Dallas' win was tainted. 1 Cup in 12 years is better than what the Leafs have done, so I would gladly take a GM that HAS won a Cup. Even if it was tainted, his team did get the Cup and they WERE in the Finals, which is also better than what the Leafs have been doing. are y'all talknig about Hull's foot in the crease? of course it's tainted! ;D if after the draft Tambellini is coming, then that's good for us. then finally we'll have a proper hierarchy. 1 Coach who tells players what to do 1 GM who tells coach what to do 1 President who tells GM what to do no way does that get muddied up Trapp is VERY good y'all. he knows exactly how many games he's scouted this year, and the strength and weakness of nearly every player projected to go in the first couple of rounds. he said the key is don't draft as if you don't have a first pick, draft as if you do; you'll never know when you're suddenly presented with extra picks (or less picks). I'm glad we have him. |
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at the thought of having Lumme, Hoglund, and Reichel again next year. Don't forget Eriksson. With our luck, Quinn will call him up again. Then I will really 
It's just that every since I saw him screw up big time in the 2001 Exhibition game against the Sabres in Hamilton, I've never been able to forget him. He's a big F up if you ask me!! He's a big F up even if you don't ask me. Man, do I wish they would put him on a slow boat to China!! 
Believe it or not, I'm not the only one that says Dallas' win was tainted.