Several People: Go w/Tambellini

[Gerard]

If it is true that Tam. isn't already here due to the relationship between the ex-habs Dryden/Gainey then it all comes down to whether Dryden is actually 'here' come the summer and fall. I cannot forsee the benefits of a power struggle and wonder how much attention this will get with all the chaos that is surely to be our summer. On the other hand, w/out a proper gm in place, this summer will be even more confusing. Here we go again...

[Leafs_Pam]

lapniappe said:

are y'all talknig about Hull's foot in the crease?

of course it's tainted! ;D

Yep that's what I was talking about. That's why the NHL called a meeting the very next day to change the rules. Even though it's 4 years later, there are still many that say Dallas didn't win the Cup in 1999. It's still about 50/50.

[thinkblue]

Leafs_Pam said:

LOL!! Believe it or not, I'm not the only one that says Dallas' win was tainted.

1 Cup in 12 years is better than what the Leafs have done, so I would gladly take a GM that HAS won a Cup. Even if it was tainted, his team did get the Cup and they WERE in the Finals, which is also better than what the Leafs have been doing.

So you'd rather see Gainey and Quinn NOT get alone rather than Tambellini and Quinn GET along...seems like a waste of a year if the coach and GM arent on the same page.

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ThinkBlue said:

So you'd rather see Gainey and Quinn NOT get alone rather than Tambellini and Quinn GET along...seems like a waste of a year if the coach and GM arent on the same page.

Gainey and Quinn are both Professionals (yes, even Pat, even if we don't like the dead wood he choses) so if they are both professional about it, they can find a way to work together for a year. It's better to have a GM that will chose players who benefit the team and that won't be swayed by Pat to take players like Lumme and Eriksson instead.

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Leafs_Pam said:

Gainey and Quinn are both Professionals (yes, even Pat, even if we don't like the dead wood he choses) so if they are both professional about it, they can find a way to work together for a year. It's better to have a GM that will chose players who benefit the team and that won't be swayed by Pat to take players like Lumme and Eriksson instead.

True. But I think Gainey is overrated, myself. He was responsible for Blunders like Audette, Kamensky and Turgeon, was he not? And he was the one who brought Lumme into dallas too . .. I dont think the Leafs right now need old guys who are stuck to long term deals at high prices; at least Lumme and Erriksson dont cost that much ;D

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ThinkBlue said:

True. But I think Gainey is overrated, myself. He was responsible for Blunders like Audette, Kamensky and Turgeon, was he not? And he was the one who brought Lumme into dallas too . .. I dont think the Leafs right now need old guys who are stuck to long term deals at high prices; at least Lumme and Erriksson dont cost that much ;D

Lumme used to be okay, so I wouldn't judge Gainey by Lumme. All GM's make some blunders. Lumme got worse in Dallas but I didn't realize that at the time. It's the constant blunders (like Quinn and his project players) that drive me up the wall.

On Turgeon I can't remember. I was thinking it was the current Stars GM that got him, but maybe it was Gainey. Still, when Turgeon was picked up, he wasn't that bad. He went down hill that first year in Dallas.

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Leafs_Pam said:

Lumme used to be okay, so I wouldn't judge Gainey by Lumme. All GM's make some blunders. Lumme got worse in Dallas but I didn't realize that at the time. It's the constant blunders (like Quinn and his project players) that drive me up the wall.

On Turgeon I can't remember. I was thinking it was the current Stars GM that got him, but maybe it was Gainey. Still, when Turgeon was picked up, he wasn't that bad. He went down hill that first year in Dallas.

Ok, fine...but lets ignore all that and assume that all GMs make their blunders; Quinn will, Gainey will, Tambellini will. Now, my question is, long term, who would you prefer - an old GM who could feasibly bolt when he feels 'bored' (Gainey) or a guy who can think long term in his dealings...somone who we know should be here for a long time.

[Rusty]

Goodpoints TB, I never thought about over the long term, at least not that long term. People forget that it was Gainey who fired himself from benchboss, and it was also him that stepped down from the GM's position, something that Quinn never has, or never will, to the consternation of the average Leaf fan btw LOL.

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Earnhardt said:

it was Gainey who fired himself from benchboss, and it was also him that stepped down from the GM's position,

That is very true, Rusty. Living so close to Dallas we all heard about that. That takes guts.

Earnhardt said:

something that Quinn never has, or never will, to the consternation of the average Leaf fan btw LOL.

I think that's because Quinn doesn't have the guts to admit he stinks as a GM. Either that or he has too big a head and thinks he's great as a GM.

[thinkblue]

Leafs_Pam said:

I think that's because Quinn doesn't have the guts to admit he stinks as a GM. Either that or he has too big a head and thinks he's great as a GM.

Quinn always says he has a good "supporting cast" around him

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ThinkBlue said:

Quinn always says he has a good "supporting cast" around him

Yeah, a supporting cast that isn't any better than he is.

[Keon14]

Too bad Dryden didn't have the Balls to hire Riseborough who he enterviewed when he fired Smith, the job he's done in Minny has been outstanding. Were still in the dark ages with our One fulltime pro scout, going into last years draft we had three full time scouts, their are teams like Jersey who have more pro scouts than we do scouts period. It's not by accident that since 69 we have drafted 2 hall of famers while other teams have drafted that many in one draft